197. The Perennial Matchmaker | Nancy Ondra Garden Blogger | Southeast PA
Meet Nancy J. Ondra, Plantswoman!
Nancy J. Ondra is a renowned garden writer and editor with more than 30 years of experience growing and experimenting with perennials and plant combinations. She is the author or coauthor of more than a dozen respected gardening books. In The Perennial Matchmaker: Create Amazing Combinations with Your Favorite Perennials, she has distilled her in-depth knowledge of color, texture, and seasonal effects into a simple approach for surefire planting success.
Tell us a little about yourself.
I live in SE Pennsylvania, zone 6B/7
I’ve been gardening my entire life, got my first job as a teacher!
Gardening
About 10 miles from
Tell me about your first gardening experience?
Ive always lived here, we have a family farm
I can’t remember not gardening
there isn’t a specific one
I remember
over any book
I treasured that catalog
one cent jumbo packet
it was just a penny
beans, flowers
I just remember being so entranced by the variety of seeds
I can’t imagine any company
How did you learn how to garden organically?
I actually grew up in the suburbs but we always had the farm,
we didn’t think of it organically
four years of being inundated with pesticides
fungicides
i don’t think I want to do
took an internship at Rodale Press
I need a job
this will be great
Sort of learned by being innundated
encyclopedia of Organic gardening
doing a lot of big books back then
visiting the Rodale Institute and taking classes up there
growing
That’s my last one
It’s my favoritist one!
The Perennial Matchmaker: Create Amazing Combinations with Your Favorite Perennials,
People really respond to ideas for combinations
it’s so easy
impulse buy perennials
plant them here or there based on what they need
somethings missing
take it to the next level as people say
when you’re doing perennial combinations
don’t go out and buy new plants
what is doing well
what can you move to put next to each other
purple coneflowers
purpleish pink phlox
inspire people to move them
It’s actually
theoretically
an annual is a plant that grows from seed to seed
biennial
make leaves
make flower the next year
then die
perennial
could live from year to year
for a certain number of years
tender perennials
annuals in some places
rather
You can theoretically move them any time of year
ideally if somethings gonna bloom in the spring
roots all settled in
where it wants to be it’s where it wants to go
spring
early summer bloomers
move them in the fall
later summer
move them in the spring
about 6 months ahead
Fall is a good time for moving a lot of things.
Aster ornamental grass that’s gonna bloom in the fall
Summer time
is a good time to think about the combinations
looking at this pink phlox
break off flowers and carry them around
physical note
move those two together
why is phlox easier
just the way it works out for me
I don’t know
maybe it has something to do
phlox is easier to move
sometimes I’ll move both of them if something is in the wrong spot
you can really
as long as you keep them watered and
thing
I usually harvest the wild brambles
Blackberries
Wineberries
that way I don’t have to give them garden space
4 acres
40
Tell us about something that grew well this year.
It’s almost an acre of flowers and vegetables
managed meadow of cedar plants
not all 4 acres
Pretty much everything has grown
Blessed with rain every 3-4 days
pastures are green still
mid july
weeds
plants are just so lush
nothings rotting
everything’s estactic
Is there something you would do different next year or want to try/new?
I always like to try new plants
something I’ve gotten into
harvesting for drying
everlasting
status
winged everlasting
next year
annual flowers
I last year, it makes a difference if I’m working on a book
last year I was doing more pressed flowers
meant to get back into that this year
when I was cutting back
throwing this stuff in the compost pile when I could be drying it
wonderfully
fragrant things
Tell me about something that didn’t work so well this season.
Sort of balanced the wonderfulness of the rain
deer have found their way into the garden
thoguht we had an understanding
coming into the garden
net the entire vegetable garden
they said ok well go into the flower area
lillies and daylillies have suffered
get past
Japanese beetles
horrible this year
that’s also
so much for the roses
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Let’s Get to the Root of Things
Which activity is your least favorite activity to do in the garden?
watering I hate watering!
Right it takes a long time.
And it’s never as good as the rain! I hate wasting water, it’s never good enough.
Mike’s always like did you water today? And I’m like I watered yesterday. Nothing like the rain.
What is your favorite activity to do in the garden?
Anything to do with seeds
- planting seeds
- collecting seeds
- saving seeds?
Got any tips for listeners?
just try
Idk what’s a seed
what to collect
if you’ve grown things from seed you know what you’re looking for.
if you’ve grown a zinnia from seed you’ll recognize the seeds.
Just give it a try. It’s really not that hard.
saving money
preserving a favorite you’ll have seeds to share too!
Right, there’s always so many seeds in each flower etc.
The Perennial Matchmaker: Create Amazing Combinations with Your Favorite Perennials,
What is the best gardening advice you have ever received?
We had a wonderful gardener out this way named Joanna Reed
I saw her house on a tour
The best advice
phrase
back into your work
if you have a big area that you are that youa re digging or mulching or you’re weeding, orient yourself so that you are always looking at what I did and not what I have to do.
That’s gotten me through a lot of big products.
looks at how much
A favorite tool that you like to use? If you had to move and could only take one tool with you what would it be?
My brother is also a professional gardener and he got me hooked on these things called
meant for shearing she3p
But they look basically like a garden scissors, they work like scissors but they are sort of a cross between scissors and pruning shears!
I always wanted longer then blades then pruning share
- cutting them back
- harvesting
- weeding
I will use them to pry weeds out of the soil because they have pointy tips
work as a professional gardener, these are almost attached to my hips.
in the interest of full disclosure
useful llama items
places that sell animal tools.
self-sharpening. I’ve used them for years and not had to sharpen them.
A favorite recipe you like to cook from the garden?
I don’t really cook so
Salads
I eat anything that doesn’t need to be anything but chopped.
A favorite internet resource?
Mostly what I am looking for is being able to id plants
google images is almost always on my desktop searching for pictures to compare.
I’m a Pinterest junkie
spend hours on Pinterest looking for plant combinations gardening ideas.
I probably should have said that first Pinterest.
A favorite reading material-book, mag, blog/website etc you can recommend?
I didn’t really spend much time reading about gardening I’m more like doing it.
My friend subscribes to Garden’s Illustrated passes on
that’s my eye candy
I will actually read that too
published in Britain but they have gardens from all over.
If you have a business to you have any advice for our listeners about how to sell extra produce or get started in the industry?
it’s getting more and more difficult to get a book published through a traditional publisher
On the other hand with the internet and the web anybody can be a garden writer
10th anniversary of blogging. I think it’s the most wonderful thing for any gardener.ople are going to be hesitant and think no one’s gonna read what I have to say
community of
bloggers bloom day!
what’s in bloom in their garden
may dreams garden
oh I’m participating this month!
what everybody has in bloom
positive happy group of people
everybody has something to share even if they are a beginner gardener. I also use blogging as a garden journal.
It’s the only form of garden journal I do because if i want to remember what this looks like later. It’s a great resource for anyone that has a record or projects of what worked and didn’t work. I would encourage anyone whether they want to be a garden blogger or keep just keep good gardening records.
I had a blogging challenge once, and it was like write 10 posts a month which is like Monday, Wednesday, Friday for a month but don’t publish it. And just see what happens after a month and either you’re gonna love it an publish and keep going or your not. But just do it and practice because no one’s gonna read in the beginning anyway and you want to make your mistakes before people are looking anyway.
Final question-
if there was one change you would like to see to create a greener world what would it be? For example is there a charity or organization your passionate about or a project you would like to see put into action. What do you feel is the most crucial issue facing our planet in regards to the environment either in your local area or on a national or global scale?
I just makes me a bit sad, to think as plants as lifestyle accessories rather then living things. It’s so easy to go and people do it everywhere and just buy an already growing plant and stick it in a container and its there.
It’s wonderful that they are attune to plants at all but so much has been lost by people not growing things from seed
not being cognizant of the natural cycle of plants.
People want plants to do certain things and the plants don’t do that.
They’ll come into the nursery and they want something that
- blooms all summer
- in the shade
- that deer won’t eat
There aren’t always plants like that… People think they can order plants the way they order furniture… it’s kind of sad…
I would like to encourage people to grow from seed
- if they have never grown something from seed
grow things from seed
- collect and pass them to inspire people to get more in touch with how plants grow
natural cycle of them growing and blooming and dying!
Plants die
people get so upset. Well that’s just the nature of plants.
Perennial comes back every year… things happen even perennials die
then you have space to plant something else.
That’s so true, my sage plant died and I was crushed…
How do we connect with you?
The Perennial Matchmaker: Create Amazing Combinations with Your Favorite Perennials,
Blog is hayefield.com
links to pinterest
etsy shop
That’s sounds awesome, not so intimidating.
I participate in bloom day
March and April though October
My November thing I like to give away seeds so I have a seed giveaway for readers!
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