271. Sustainable Agriculture and Food Justice | Farm School NYC | Onika Abraham | Brooklyn, NY
Onika Abraham from Farm School NYC shares her passion for sustainable agriculture and food justice education in New York’s 5 Boroughs.
I’m so excited to introduce my guest from Farm School NYC Onika Abraham!
Tell us a little about yourself.
I reside here in beautiful Brooklyn NYC.
I’m originally a New Yorker from the lower side Manhattan, if anyone is familiar with NYC accents, it’s obvious.
Grew up in NYC from parents who grew up on farms, always loved visiting my grandparents seeing them grow what they eat and always inspiring to me!
I have come full circle by being the director of Farm School NYC
Tell me about your first gardening experience?
I have to say, I grew up on the lower east side on the 18th floor an apartment
- lucky to have a little terrace
- little concrete shelf
- does not sound like a bucolic farm
- but was definitely my first gardening experience
My mother grew up on a mid size family farm in Alabama, when she moved here she brought her love and passion for growing things with her and she just recreated that in a little postage size terrace.
I really grew up in pots and containers on my parent’s terrace
had to be flowers
house plants and all different flowers
- zinnias
- marigolds
were some of her favorites I remember from when I was a kid!
Awwww that’s like the sweetest story. I didn’t really get to meet a lot of people from NYC proper, even tho my cousins lived on the Upper East Side, but we only saw them at Christmas and it’s fun to imagine, a little children’s book. Have you seen Sarah Stewart’s book The Gardener?
What is FARM SCHOOL NYC? Is it for adults for kids? What kinds of classes do you have?
FARM SCHOOL NYC is for adults
folks who are interested in learning how to grow sustainably
- sustainable organic practices
- people who want to use that knowledge base to
address some of the inequities in our society
resources
health wellness
access to healthy food
cultivate an awareness of how to grow food and collecting or make an impact on those health and wealth disparities
bringing things together culturally
See our work at FARM SCHOOL NYC as a way of
- building community
- building justice
through food
cohort moving through our certificate program
certificate in Urban Agriculture
20 courses in succession
20-30 people moving through that program at any given year
Take a variety of courses at FARM SCHOOL NYC
containers grounding in the methodology
- educate entire communities
- comes onto the farm
one point of entry of a whole community of people who can learn with this person and share that knowledge
come in
start taking courses
anyone over the age of 18
- youngest student is about 20 maybe 21
- oldest student is about 62
Cohort
- racially diverse
- culturally diverse
- age diverse
- gender
diversity
Did you tell us already? Is there an actual farm FARM SCHOOL NYC?? And if so where is that and how big?
feed each other
that’s the beauty
we were originally created as a collective of farms
things we have here at our fingertips and resources that we have
and one thing NYC does not lack at all believe it or not is space to grow
-
rooftop farms
-
over 600 community gardens in NYC
-
farming spaces
because we were developed as a collective of groups, we didn’t want to create something else that would compete with that for resources to fund these projects
or an alternate income that is required to make it happen
didn’t want to create another resource to be maintained by this community
access and feed and invest in what already existed
Most of hands on activities and most of our FarmNYC coursework happens on different farms and gardens around the city
founder
seed
so we don’t have our farm
every farm is our farm in some sense
where we go to different places throughout the five boroughs!
That is so cool! Other people are gonna learn so much more by seeing all these different systems and who would have thought there are so many? Is there a map? Can the public go see them?
Oh yeah sure!
How fun it would be to go tour 600 community gardens or even 25 of them!
there are some great non profits
community gardens are part of my childhood
postage stamp that my mother turned into this beautiful sky garden
grew up on the lower east side of nyc
reclaimed vacant lots from the 60s and 70s
and create wonderful oaises like all over that neighborhood
I would weed my mothers garden, and see all of these little pocket gardens
20×20 footprint of a brownstone building in NYC where that house was torn down or vacated in someway and
communities would come together and reclaim that space and create a lush collective for that community
I think a huge part of what I saw growing up.
Me too! One of my first college experiences out of high school was a Pratt Institute in NYC and I was just there this summer they have a huge rose garden. Some of my fondest memories were of being at the quad at Pratt, it was
I live not far from there, I ride my bike past there quite often.
I was surprised we went to the Brooklyn Grange and walked right past there a couple of blocks away.
The certificate program is really intensive, 20 different courses and takes at least 2 years
It’s a level of commitment that is not for everyone.
We have other points of entry into our courses
Beginning in the springtime individual courses
not enrolled into the program you can take one course there
range in terms of how long they are
They are stand alones
dont need prerequisite of another course
one I taught for many years, this is the first year I wont teach it myself
propogation
working with seeds/transplants
working with seeds for scale
If you have aspirations for becoming a market farmer it will give you a better sense of what it would tae and looking at the resources you might have at your home
- getting a grow light
- finding a sunny window
- looking at large production scale
- visiting greenhouses
how all of the seedlings sold and come into being
hands-on course with a lecture component
meant for full-time working adults
- evenings
- weekends
classtimes so people are able to take them
folks can visit our website
Farm School NYC
to get more information on the course offerings
-
propagation
Growing soils all about soil science with a practical perspective
- hands on
- farmers need to know about building soils and caring for them
- developing a lifelong relationship with land
10 courses for anyone in the public
smaller workshops
some are free with partnerships
folks can find a way
so much of what we do is building community
Like minded of finding people who are growing and interested in social justice
stay in our community
how to plan
people on this planet
Do you have any major steps or tips you would share with listeners if they wanted to start a community center in their place or a sustainable tip to do in their home.
I like the first question of people wanting to have some impact in their community. People come to us with that
- hope
- wish
- desire
first thing I say is
- teachers
- staff
- tells folks
check in with what’s happening in your own community
work to be isolated in some sense of all the things going on already see if there are already projects that need support
often tempting to have an idea that we think is wonderful and want to run with that
something already existing that is also a wonderful idea, it might not be yours totally but if there is something ingrained a community already and there is already support and interest help those projects that are already needing help as opposed to competing for resources
I suggest walk the neighborhood and find out what
- community gardens
- community centers need a volunteer
abandon your own idea but get involved in an interaction
Boy we could sure use you in Congress right now! You’re very eloquent and have a lot of background knowledge and the kind of person who can unite multiple groups of people while putting our planet first!
That’s a big part of our mission here at
Farm School NYC
everywhere
work at diversity
inclusion
work
ongoing challenges that are inherent
prestige bar
practice
applicable no mater what
- growing food
- creating policy
- creating relationship there
not everyone who comes into FARM school is looking to be a full time farmer
definitely
central to that
- people who come in as lawyers
- policy advocates
- teachers
- educators
very visceral
hands on ways
learning from farmers
food system that
whole ways that we interact with our system
that’s what were trying to do
sustainable ag and a more just food system
folks more educator
I was talking about the diversity of farm school some ways the deeper meaning of that
wrap my thought about how we got on there…
One thing that what makes farm school different as far as education as farmers
- our broader goal
- our aim
- vision
is a more just food system
larger food system that corrects the inequities that are systemic in America
farmers are a foundation of that
feeling that there is a real connection to land is a huge part of grounding ourselves in our what relationships were’ looking for food systems
I really believe that
Takes more then farmers it takes
- lawyers
- policy makers
- teachers
- activists
- philosophers
all of those people together
- love to grow food
- have in common
they may have their own farm on a commercial farm they stay invovle in the
- deep work
- life work
- changing the food system for the better for the planet and people on it
so deep and exciting for me is this larger goal of a food just system together
IDK how my husband and I got on this yesterday, we were looking up how many people there are in the world, in 1927 there were 2 billion people and now there are 7 billion and how all the way up until 1927 there were only 2 billlion people and we need to figure out our food system. It’s completely unfair, I DON”T BELIEVE anywhere there should be people without access to clean water or food, and education. BUT It’s ridiculous. So I am excited to hear about this.
World | Population | Years in between |
1804 |
1,000,000,000 | 1804 |
1927 |
2,000,000,000 | 123 |
1960 |
3,033,212,527 | 37 |
1974 |
4,003,448,151 | 14 |
1987 |
5,055,636,132 | 13 |
1999 |
6,066,867,391 | 12 |
2011 |
7,043,008,586 | 12 |
2024 |
8,000,000,000 | 13 |
2042 |
9,000,000,000 | 18 |
2070 |
10,500,000,000 | 26 |
2100 |
11,184,000,000 | 30 |
rows 8-12 are estimates |
So the certificate program sounds like a college course and I love how it’s teaching all these sustainability justice practices!
I agree! I love it too, I have a little young son now so I am not able to go to, I used to go to like every class and build relationships in a really deep way
I miss it so much I really do!
Well our paths always change the experiences your taking with you and sharing with us. Last year my motto was life happens 4 you, not 2 you and this year it’s motivation is earned. I feel like your mission today is to share this with my listeners and not be down in the dirt.
balance
It takes different types of roles and responsibility today to speak to you and it’s been a pleasure I love talking to people who are enthusiastic crazy plant.
My eyes are ready to go buggy, tomorrow is my 4 year anniversary of launch, and I’ve been trying to create this book, I thought it would be done so long ago, but I’m super enthusiastic, when I started my podcast I didn’t really garden at all and felt I had a brown thumb and I have learned so much, I know my listeners learn as much.
It melts my heart to talk to someone who talks about Social Justice too because that’s something I would like to make different about my show. I was reading in an Organic Gardening Magazine, where they were getting letters to the editor about not liking their politics and to get that out of the magazine and they said no it’s essential. And so it’s really nice to talk to someone who feels this passionate because I don’t get to meet and have these conversations in my daily life very often.
And IDK if I mentioned that this show is played on PRN.fm on Monday nights so there’s a whole group in your area that might be interested in taking one of your classes.
Anything else?
I don’t think so, we covered a lot and I appreciate you taking me away from my keyboard. It was fun.
I said, I took a walk to the mailbox just to get a break and hopefully the book will be released tomorrow!
I think the best thing is meeting the other people taking the classes like I loved meeting the other people who went to the Brooklyn Grange with us that day.
Yes, I say that meeting like minded people is huge benefit and folks they can grow with!
Have a great day!
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